1 of 1 people found the following review helpful. Still feels pretty close to a stock clutch. (stock is 21-22lb.). I managed to get 13k miles out of the stock clutch before it started to slip. Rated for 350 ft-lb torque. We entertain beauty shots and thrive on discussing mods, whether purely cosmetic, functional, or both. In BOTH instances stock replacement clutches felt WAY easier than the old stock clutches. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This clutch … Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. STAGE 2 DAILY: Engineered for HP modifications. The Stage 2 SB clutches are quiet and have a good pedal feel. And you got yours from someplace other than Kerma? We welcome discussion of all things GTI. Pedal pressure doesn't change until the Stage 3 clutches. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. It feels extremely stiff at first, but after 2 days you get used to it. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE: This clutch system is designed for the racing climate. I have SB stg2 endurance and mines a little squeaky but that could be something specific to my car? Sorry if this has been discussed before.. building up my ALH with Malone stage 5 custom tune, VNT17 and R520s, 3 bar map, etc. This is the most popular kit for TDI’s that are heavily modified but still driven daily. The Daily holds 345 ft/lbs and the Endurance holds 445 ft/lbs, a claim of +100 tq for that feramic side. South Bend Stage 3 Endurance Clutch and Flywheel Kit (2.0T) $ 1,560.30 $ 1,605.30 Quantity. The disc is engineered with a Dual Damped design to provide accurate control when accelerating through corners. The stock clutch may have a lighter pedal, but it's not significant. No problem for any beginner to drive. MODEL # SBCFJK1001-HD-O. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. Stage 3 Endurance Clutch Kit by South Bend Clutch®. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE: An SFI approved single mass flywheel is recommended for this application to get optimal performance. /r/GolfGTI is a place for GTI enthusiasts to discuss and share information related to the best car that can be had for less than $30K. Had it for around 10k miles. Offered in specific configurations of Daily, Endurance or Drag, the DXD Stage 2 is perfectly matched to your driving style and your specific use. Stock clutch lasted until 112K miles and 30K miles was on stage 2. I'm planning on going stage 2 soon and have confidence in this clutch. The endurance will hold a little more power, but may engage a little more aggressively, and wear out around 10-15% faster." This kit uses the same Race Engineered SFI approved pressure plate as stage 3 daily package. Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. Pedal pressure doesn't change until the Stage 3 clutches. power on a built motor / … Both are lighter than my son's Golf with the stock Sachs DMF and clutch. The all new South Bend Silent Design clutch packages have all the same great qualities of the previous kits, except now they have eliminated all "chatter" issues. The DXD Racing Stage 2 Clutch Upgrade is perfect for those who modified their engines to GIAC's Stage 2 and Stage 2+ power levels. 5 Stars (2) 4 Stars (0) 3 Stars (0) 2 Stars (0) 1 Stars (1) Customer Photos and Videos. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. I am only on a JB1 currently but will eventually go APR stage 2 once my extended warranty wears out. ECS has the Stage 2 Daily on sale for $1,306 and … It felt a good bit heavier than the stock clutch at the very beginning, but now I hardly notice a difference. SKU: SBC-K70286 Manufacturer: South Bend Clutch 034Motorsport is proud to announce the availability of Southbend Clutch's product line for the Audi S4/A6/Allroad with the 2.7T engine. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Is the torque rating at the crank or at the wheels? This versatile clutch is an ideal match for daily driven Jeeps as well as mildly boosted Jeeps. South Bend stage 2 Endurance clutch kit with flywheel for 02A & 02J transmissions. I've experienced two clutch changes in my life (yeah, a sheltered life!). Southbend, most definitely, but my question was Daily or Endurance. Curious, as I am sure I won't be staying at the VNT17 for forever, what the difference was and which you would go with when choosing a clutch, the Stage 2 Daily or Stage 2 Endurance? So if you go from stock to a SBC Daily or Endurance (same pedal effort) they will feel the same or lighter than stock. I'm somewhere around 300ish. It's completely drivable as a daily. Last time I was on the dyno I was 175hp/330tq (I have the printout if you would a peek) and I no matter how hard I try cannot make it slip. With South Bend, the Stage 2 clutches aren't stiffer than stock. Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. South Bend Clutch Kits / VW Mk3 Golf/Passat 2.8, Mk4 VR6 12V, VW Corrado L 2.8 Clutch Kit Choose an option Stage 1 Heavy Duty Stage 2 Daily Stage 2 Endurance Stage 2 Drag Stage 3 Daily Stage 3 Endurance Stage 3 Drag Stage 4 Extreme I had a Stage 2 Endurance with a DMF in my wagon for quite a while and that pedal was heavier than stock, although not a lot. Yes, they are silent. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. I will be installing it myself and I would rather not have to repeat that process any sooner than necessary. This is my first time trying to make a Review of anything, so its a little rough! I went from the stock DMF to a SB stg 2 endurance SMF clutch and it's rated for 350ft/lbs. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE: An SFI approved single mass flywheel is recommended for this application to get optimal performance. South Bend modifies this with a performance pressure plate paired with a full-face Feramic lining on the flywheel side and a heavy duty organic disc on the pressure plate side. Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. Does the endurance clutch have a longer lifespan than the daily? The pressure plate is precision balance for vibration free operation at high RPM. Kinda sounds like squeaky brakes. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. Stage 2 Daily Clutch Kits: Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race; Conservatively rated to hold 400lbs/ft of torque; Featuring a sprung-hub center section for use with a single … Is there any real difference between the G60 flywheel and the SBC one? Recommended uses are daily and street with an emphasis on Rally and Endurance racing. I've seen folks say some of the lower spec DC and South Bend clutches have a lighter pedal feel. STAGE 2 DAILY: Engineered for HP modifications. The pressure plate is a stock SACHs painted red. Wanted a clutch that can handle more power and firmer pedal. In today’s video I give you my review on the South Bend Stage 2 Endurance Clutch that I had installed in the last video. Pedal always felt pretty much like stock. The pressure plate is the same between both so there's no difference to the pedal feel. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE: An SFI approved single mass flywheel is recommended for this application to get optimal performance. This Heavy Duty Pressure Plate has an increased clamp load with little or no increase in pedal pressure. With this upgrade, what are the clutch options for preserving some of the daily drivability? It's butter smooth. Stage 2 Endurance - 400 ft lbs Made from (Kevlar or Ceramic depending on stage). I drive a 2017 GTI SE running APR stage 1. Fitments / specifications: 2009-2014 GTI / GLI TSI 2.0T 6-speed - (02Q) 2009-2014 Audi A3 TSI 2.0T 6-speed - (02Q) 2009-2011 Passat 2.0T TSI 6-Speed (02Q) Do you know what stretch bolts were replaced for the install? They aren't too grabby (you can use just the clutch when you're in a border line or something, or back easily up a steep driveway). The Endurance and the Daily use the same pressure plate so there is no difference in pedal feel between them. That's what I thought. Not sure about the daily, but I have had my endurance for over 100K now. An SFI approved single mass flywheel is recommended for this application to get optimal performance. The South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Clutch is a great upgrade for your Jeep. I'd vote for stage 2 endurance every time.The Southbend HD pressure plate is not fun for a daily driver IMO,I've ran it before.I'm currently on my second stage 2 endurance clutch and good used SMF.Not many people wear out a clutch and still decide to get the same thing again. $773.58. Press J to jump to the feed. JavaScript is disabled. Also consider DC. I now have just over 2,000 miles on the South Bend Stage 2 Endurance. Stock clutch actually held the power until it started slipping. I have the south bend stage 3 daily on mine. Southbend's lineup is a favorite in the aftermarket community and includes some stellar offerings. Would prefer the daily--if it will hold 400-425 ft lbs at the wheels (est. This is South Bend's Stage 2 Endurance clutch and flywheel kit for VWs. Thanks for your input. It will virtually eliminate slippage and prevent your engine from getting stalled while shifting. Made for Tough Conditions. I received an e-mail from a South Bend rep regarding the Stage 2 Daily and Endurance: "The stage 2 Endurance is organic and ceramic on the clutch disc, the daily is only organic. I upgraded a year ago from stock to a SMF SBC stage II endurance and pedal feel was significantly lighter. South Bend Clutch KMZ03-HD-OCE - South Bend Clutch Stage 2 ENDURANCE Mazda Miata 1.8L; 1994-2005. There's a bit of rattle at idle, but it's easily ignorable. Engagement is not much different from the Daily option but this clutch can handle a lot more power and torque. The Endurance should last longer too. Kerma sells the same product we offer. The Stage 2 Daily in there now is significantly lighter. I don't see any reason not to go with the Endurance. Part Number: K70344-HD-OFE Notes: Stage 2 Clutch Kit; ENDURANCE Series; Kit Includes Flywheel Manufacturer: South Bend Clutch Torque Rating: 475ft/lbs *STAGE 2 ENDURANCE:* Clutches with DMFs tend to have a heavier pedal than a comparable clutch with an SMF. Or any other 6 speed cars running the Stage 2 Daily who can list power numbers, driving style, and a review of this clutch? It includes a new ceramic full face lining on the flywheel side and a "Medium Metal" content Organic lining on the pressure plate side. Reviews; Questions & Answers; 3 Reviews. I'm inclined towards the following: JHM R Series Stage 3R Subjective description sounds like it would work for APR UC+DP, but unclear if one needs to use 5R South Bend Stage 2 Endurance The daily version is rated 395TQ, but endurance is at 430TQ. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. Everything else, the pressure plate, and the PP side of the disc, is the same between the Daily and the Endurance. Recommended uses are daily and street with an emphasis on Rally and Endurance racing. The clutch isn't stiff or hard at all. It grabs hard and feels so much better than the slipping stock clutch. I have no affiliation with them (or the primary vendor on this site that carries them). The disc is designed for the special needs of a vehicle with circuit racing in mind. You must log in or register to reply here. Recommended usage is daily, street and moderate race. This is South Bend's Stage 2 Endurance clutch and flywheel kit for VWs. The Endurance and the Daily use the same pressure plate so there is no difference in pedal feel between them. Pedal feel was very close to stock but engagement is more aggressive once it starts. I have a Quiet Clutch (stock) in my B4 and the SBC and Quiet feel very similar. This clutch … All SBC kits for O2J transmissions are silent. South Bend Clutch KNS02-HD-OCE - South Bend Clutch Stage 2 ENDURANCE Infiniti G20 2.0L; 1991-2002. View Product. The South Bend Stage 2 Daily clutch kit is the best choice in reliably putting power down to the street for your VW Mk5, Mk6, GTI, GLI, B6 Passat, CC, 5N Tiguan, Audi 8P A3 and 8J TT 2.0T. The pressure plate is precision … The South Bend Stage 2 Daily clutch kit is the best choice in reliably putting power down to the street in your VW Mk7, Mk7.5 GTI, Golf R, GLI, Sportwagen AWD and Alltrack. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I'm very happy with it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Designed to deal with more heat as well as torque. The one appeal I had with the Endurance was me falsely thinking it might have increased longevity over the Daily. My Stage 2 was definitely lighter than what I had before, but I was changing from an 020 transmission with a cable operated clutch to an 02A which has a hydraulic clutch, meaning it's not really a useful comparison. The Daily, rated at 325ftlbs. Recommended for single mass flywheel (SMF) when original design is DMF to achieve optimal performance. The DXD Racing Stage 2 Clutch Upgrade is perfect for those who have modified their engines for more horsepower and torque, and are beginning to see the limitations in the stock units. 3.7 out of 5 Stars. I have read much praise about the Endurance, but the "wife-wall" is the part that concerns me, as to if the Endurance will be too much of a stiff pedal compared to stock. Seems to be enough for what I will have, but I am unsure really on what numbers I will sitting at after this. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE: An SFI approved single mass flywheel is recommended for this application to get optimal performance. It replaces the OE dual mass flywheel with an SBC single mass flywheel in the weight you choose: 14, 17 or 22lb. This combination runs cooler and significantly extends clutch life. STAGE 2 ENDURANCE. I just noticed that Kerma advertises them as such but no ones seems to. The pressure plate fulcrum is altered for a positive disengagement and a quick shift. This clutch … Rated holding capacity at 350 ft/lbs. Ganoid brings up a good point. It replaces the OE dual mass flywheel with a SBC single mass flywheel in the weight you choose: 22lb. New and rebuilt clutches ranging from OEM factory specifications to varying degrees of performance and heavy duty for all automotive, truck, and industrial applications! This clutch system is designed for the racing climate. Has always been a very nice driving clutch but still bites hard when you are pushing the car through the gears. My Stage 2 doesn't make any noise whatsoever, at least nothing I can hear over my engine. With South Bend, the Stage 2 clutches aren't stiffer than stock. I received an e-mail from a South Bend rep regarding the Stage 2 Daily and Endurance: "The stage 2 Endurance is organic and ceramic on the clutch disc, the daily is only organic. The endurance will hold a little more power, but may engage a little more aggressively, and wear out around 10-15% faster." The SB stage 2 was really the only option I had at the time. This Heavy Duty Pressure Plate has an increased clamp load with little or no increase in pedal pressure. This clutch … Now the ONLY difference between these two clutches is that the Endurance has a FERAMIC flywheel side. Obviously, not an original thought on my part- (discussions of rigging up scales and such): I've had a bunch of clutches in my wagon, including two SBCs. I have heard that the stage 2 daily kind of gets iffy with some tuning company’s stage 2 tunes. This clutch system maintains a stock feel while offering strength and durability. ECS has the Stage 2 Daily on sale for $1,306 and $50 in ECS gift cards that I will order this week. Are all the SB clutches now "quiet"? South Bend Clutch. I see that the endurance clutch holds slightly more torque than the daily, but does anyone have first hand experience with these clutches? It includes a Feramic full face lining on the flywheel side and a "Medium Metal" content Organic lining on the pressure plate side. The one appeal I had with the Endurance was me falsely thinking it might have increased longevity over the Daily. I guess you could say the pedal feels the same but the window for engagement is narrower. Up in the air between the Stage 2 Daily and Stage 2 Endurance. My car is only a stage 2 and a daily driver that sees roughly 20K miles a year. Fits: Scion FR-S South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Scion FRS South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Subaru BRZ South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Toyota GT-86 South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance I am 100% comfortable daily driving my car. Fits: Scion FR-S South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Scion FRS South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Subaru BRZ South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance Toyota GT-86 South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Endurance South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Daily Clutch Kit. 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