Sheung Sing plans to sue Hei Wah, but the chances of winning the case are slim. You can't be seriously thinking that a known terrorist should be allowed to return to the UK and she should be allowed to raise more future terrorists as well. 08/04/21. I don't care if they remain stateless, admitted nowhere. Iron Detective) is a 2019 Hong Kong television drama produced and directed by So Man-Chung, with Carmen So serving as co-director. Share Facebook Twitter WhatsApp ReddIt Pinterest Email Linkedin. Countries and land are owned by sovereign groups of people. She might not be in jail, but she has certainly broken a number of serious laws in Syria. Kara Hui. That looks low.’” The Australian gymnast recalled saying […] The reality is she will get a light sentence on the grounds of having a baby and being young. The child is almost certainly a UK citizen as any child born to a UK citizen is a uk citizen, and he was born before it was revoked. She can become a citizen of ISIS. The message we need to send is that belief in a global caliphate, stoning, etc, is unacceptable in our societies. My parents defected to South Korea first, but we maintained contact and they sent money and other resources to support me. They defected to Switzerland while travelling in 1979. You may have noticed points 1 and 2 both mention that this is an almost authoritarian move by the government. A free and fair court is the only way to have a true democracy. Meaning what the UK did was pass the problem along to some other country. Hostile combatants and those directly supporting them are not necessary to protect. A former governor of Ogun State, Gbenga Daniel has stated that he joined the All Progressives Congress (APC) because the party ‘offers too many options’. 1 in the UK Singles Chart in 2001, Bob Sinclar’s ‘I Feel for You‘ and his massive radio anthem ‘Love Generation‘ and Kings Of Tomorrow’s ‘Finally‘ with Julie McKnight. But none of these arguments have anything of morality about them. We have seen evidence that her father is an extremist. Vowing to take down Hei Wah, Sheung Sing joins forces with Samuel and Mr. Kan in search of evidence. Episode 1 43m. Again, she was indoctrinated - its very powerful. I don't care if you're 5 or 15 or 50, if you see mass-murdering psychopaths cutting peoples' heads off with machetes and think joining them is a good idea you shouldn't count on any form of compassion or consideration. Isil has not disolved. … It is not normal to care more about the rights of criminals than the rights of non-criminals, and you shouldn't be surprised that non-criminals find that way of thinking distasteful. It is a co-production between the Hong Kong broadcasting company TVB and China's Tencent Penguin Pictures, a television production unit launched by Tencent. Stream Tracks and Playlists from Defected Records on your desktop or mobile device. (2) "No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.". Why bother wasting money and time bringing her back to the UK and imprisoning her? 0.0/10 from 0 users. Article 15 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (which has been ratified by the UK), states that "Everyone has the right to a nationality" and "No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality." Main Role. 135 members in the Defected community. Ms Begum being 15 means she is responsible. This means that she was indoctrinated into the regime before this point. 382084 Followers. Music. Furthermore, if we set a precedent that the government decide which crimes have this revoked, we move closer to an authoritarian regime where whichever party happens to be in charge decide which of its citizens are given protection. Defected Recommends: Must See Documentaries #5. The UK passport entitles people to "such assistance and protection as deemed necessary". Established in London, 1999. Defected. If you liked Subnautica (which is excellent) you should check out Satisfactory. What's the worst that can happen to them after murdering dozens of innocents? With opening day rapidly approaching, two stories dropped last week about Yasiel Puig. Save. https://www.gov.uk/age-of-criminal-responsibility, https://www.gov.uk/child-under-10-breaks-law. (Source: Netflix) The Defected Episode 29. She can’t change her mind. Philip Keung. (1) As deemed necessary. It’s enjoyable enough as an ARPG but the end game got stale fairly quick and was made even worse due to bugs and the inability to replay the campaign. I would also argue yes, but I can't argue with the condemning terrorist part, and I understand that she may have forfeited this particular right with that. Embed a player for . Any American who joined Isis should be stripped of citizenship and exiled. Furthermore, Ms Begum wants to return - even though she know's she's likely to be arrested. May 08, 2019. This wasn't even one, carefully planned murder for personal gain. I will say, it’s fun, and if they can address the issues and focus on bringing back some of the features they abandoned, it could be a really strong addition to the ARPG landscape. I argue that I don't care that somewhere it's written down citizenship is a human right. 06/04/21. That's not her fault, however it is relevant to eradicating this ideology, especially if her parents or family are involved with her. Where to Watch The Defected. They didn’t stay long though, for some reason. Compassion for kids goes out the window when those "kids" deliberately side with the scum of the Earth against innocent people who did nothing wrong. When I wasfifteen, I understood Nazi Germany had been evil, and I understood why. The British public have made it clear they do not want to pay for a baby to be raised in a family that will indoctrinate it further - and loss of custody is unlikely. After surviving a near-fatal injury on the job, a cop sets out to investigate a conspiracy involving the top brass of the police department. I've said something similar in a previous reply - it would have been much earlier when she would have been indoctrinated - no one ups and leaves their life in less than a year (so 14), and at 13 you are no longer accountable for your actions under UK law. Netflix. She doesn't have a side of the bargain to keep - shes entitled to the protection regardless. 4) Ms Begum's son is in danger due to this decision. This is just under the standards by which war is currently waged and is no less just than a trial in Britain. I assume Milo rightfully lives with you now? And treason should be punished in any number of harsh ways, including stripping one of citizenship. Following the runaway success of his label debut ‘Mvinline’, Boys Noize is back on Defected with the anticipated follow-up single ‘All I Want’[...] 29/03/21. In 2003, they briefly returned to Russia for the first time in over 20 years. Find communities you're interested in, and become part of an online community! Defected is probably the one and only label that carried House music's legacy into the 21st century. The UK is depriving her of any citizenship with this. Enter with a mindset for conversation, not debate. The primary purpose of laws is to protect the law-abiding, and the rights of criminals are considered secondary to that with good reason. ISIS and extremist ideology is bringing the UK, Europe and the west as a whole very serious problems on many fronts. Therefore they have a duty of care. The Defected stars Benjamin Yuen who lost a lot of weight to play the role of a police inspector, was once a police hotshot now suffering PTSD after taking an almost fatal shot to the head for a comrade. I disagree with the likelihood of a conviction - the fact that she would be convicted is exactly why she should be tried. A subreddit for the discussion of all things relating to the label Defected Records. This has changed my view on this aspect. The clue is in the name. Sheung Sing leads the team and charges into the drug den, but they are stopped by the Narcotics Bureau. Prior to that point, you cannot be charged as a criminal. Terrorism is not a freakin' joke and those flirting with the idea of terrorism are watching this case all over the world. This wasn't a crime of passion! (5) She's a legitimate military target as a part of a military organization at war with her former nation. Itd be awesome if they allowed for the exposure of these rolls via settings or something because man, i really want to see those crit hits/fails. She would be under constant monitoring - and in prison - if she returned to the UK. Leave her there for the wolves to eat. Martin Luther - Back Tonight (Saison Main Remix) [Soulfuric Deep] 5 Elderbrook - Body [Parlophone] 6 Dunmore Brothers Feat. She joined a hostile military at war with her government. She should not be held accountable for a decision which she was not old enough to make. Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. The government lets them off the hook with a slap on the wrist? As a child, she was vulnerable to this. When 16-year-old Allana Slater stood at the end of the vault runway before her timer warm-up during the third rotation of the 2000 Olympics women’s all-around final in Sydney, she almost immediately knew that something was off. I also did private business selling gloves, socks, and cigarettes to warehouse workers. Then arrangements can be made with his family here to legally adopt her son. Press J to jump to the feed. If she is found guilty, she can receive justice in a way that is not currently possible. 100. Newsletter. The North Korean defector had sped across the demilitarized zone in a stolen jeep, then crawled south as the men who had been his comrades moments ago shot at … On the indoctrination argument - this is a cultural problem, it's extremely unlikely that the average 15 year old would be indoctrinated into a group that believes in stoning, flogging, amputation and beheading for blasphemy, homosexuality, sex outside marriage etc. The Defected (Chinese: 鐵探; Cantonese Yale: tit tam; lit. I recon it would be pretty difficult to do that given that the government know she's an Daesh sympathiser. She also would have been younger than 15 when she developed sympathy for them - no one decides to up and leave their life in less than a year. She should not be held accountable for a decision which she was not old enough to make. A subreddit for the discussion of all things relating to the label Defected Records. If she wanted to be a UK citizen again she’d have to follow normal procedure as if she had taken French citizenship or whatever. Fifteen is old enough to know Isis is an evil organization. I believe that this attempt to exclude her sends a powerful message. PRESS.PLAY: IBIZA EDITION. Isil does have a governing force. My reasoning hasn't changed since. She took up arms against the UK government which I would argue voids any responsibility the UK government previously had towards her. Jammed with intense action sequences and a genre that is not typically shown in television, The Defected garnered large followings even before it aired. Today, they spend their time between Switzerland and America. Gbenga Daniel reveals why he defected from PDP to APC. I feel perfectly comfortable flouting that, no matter who signed it. I believe your error is in not giving this lady enough credit. 144 members in the Defected community. Episode 2 43m. My argument is that they Shouldn't have removed it, not that they should give it back. I agree that the baby is innocent and should be given citizenship, on the condition that it is fostered in a secular or non-extremist family. DEFECTED PARTNERS WITH OPEL FOR A LESS NORMAL EXPERIENCE. Benjamin Yuen. In his role at London label AM:PM, he’d been instrumental in breaking records such as ‘Free’ by Ultra Naté and ‘Give Me Luv’ by Alcatraz. As a child, she was vulnerable to this. As it is highly unlikely that she will become a citizen anywhere else (Bangladesh have said she will not become a citizen), the UK has effectively breached this - again, it sets a precedent that the government in charge decide who the law applies to. 2. Defected and Opel’s multi-channel communications approach aims to engage audiences via the music and a unifying love of dance, bringing people together virtually in a first-of-its-kind moment. But I would like to make a further argument. 2) Ms Begum is unlikely to get citizenship anywhere else - and citizenship is a human right. If you murder at 15 you get sentenced for it. Their life seems like they made the right decision in defecting. May 09, 2019. If the UK didnt agree with it, then yes it would be irrelevant. The u/Ive_Defected community on Reddit. If the UK lets a known terrorist back into the country and doesn't punish her harshly enough it will be an open invitation for people to become terrorists. Add Cast. Seung Sing/Sing Sir . In regards to point 3, age really is irrelevant. As a kickstarter backer from back when it was Umbra, I have played it on and off since the alpha released a few years ago. If you go abroad and commit crimes and get arrested, there's only so much the UK government can do or should do to help you. Yau Bin Ko / "Bingo" Main Role. The Nuremberg trials set a precedent for trials of POWs, and she has would be chargeable with treason regardless. Wave Music. 38 Defining Defected Tracks . She never took an oath if she was born in the UK. This means that she was indoctrinated into the regime before this point. Their duty to him is separate from their duty to her. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also, by removing her citizenship the first right is removed. Copy the above code and paste it into your website or blog. Soulfuric Deep to release Miguel Migs' LP 'Shaping Visions' 08/04/21. Reddit is a network of communities based on people's interests. The son of the highest-profile South Korean ever to defect to North Korea has reportedly defected to the communist state in a rare switch of political allegiance.. Choe In … In a world first, car brand Opel have partnered with UK house music institution Defected to celebrate the release of the new Opel Mokka, with a virtual event taking place o IS is not a sovereign state - it never has been recognised as one. /u/bod234 (OP) has awarded 4 delta(s) in this post. r/Defected: A subreddit for the discussion of all things relating to the label Defected Records. Δ . 2003-01-07 $1.49 follow: Markus Enochson. Veteran actress Kara Hui co-stars in the series as the highly … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the changemyview community. 4) Ms Begum's son is in danger due to this decision. It’s a really fun time. The Defected Episode 28. She made the decision, now she can deal with the consequences. Thats why the ratification is important - its become UK law. Islamic State. We have also made it clear we don't want to pay for her housing and inevitable 24/7 police protection. 05/04/21. Sisley Choi. Main Role. You talk of a fair trial, and I don't see why we should bother. 1. Defected Records is a UK record label specialising in house music recordings, events, artist booking and management. As a UK passport bearer, Ms Begum is therefore entitled to this. This isn't relevant. When playing the game with other people the game hides the d20 roll UI from other players. Back in the late 90s, Simon Dunmore was one of the most respected A&R men in the business. What if she's actually still part of the terrorist regime and is playing everybody in order to facilitate an attack on the UK? Ms Begum's actions were not criminal in the typical sense of the word. Season 1. She does have citizenship. My argument was more that she was indoctrinated into IS. Dope Earth Alien - Medicine [Circus Recordings] 4 Miguel Migs Feat. She joined a terrorist organisation knowing fine well what the organisation were doing. Freek Coppens (aka Ferreck Dawn) has been active as a DJ and producer for over 17 years now. He becomes entangled in a web spun by his superiors as they try to outmanuevuer each other in their quest for supremacy. Further, the Isis bride has bangladeshi citizenship. Nous voudrions effectuer une description ici mais le site que vous consultez ne nous en laisse pas la possibilité. Press J to jump to the feed. The premise reads really bland... build factory’s on an alien world, but with the focus being purely on building more and more complex supply lines to produce more and more complex goods without dealing with resource drain or survival aspects. “I was looking at it and thinking, ‘That looks wrong. On point 3 - In the UK you are responsible for any crime you commit after the age of 10. Wave Music. Historically, a TV ad would feature a track or sound bed, secured through a sync deal. 3) Ms Begum defected to IS when she was just 15. That's what i would do if I were a terrorist. (4) Problematic but irrelevant to how she herself ought to be dealt with. Isil gave her citizenship for Isil and their controlled land. Conservative MP Phillip Lee has defected to the Liberal Democrats ahead of a showdown between Boris Johnson and Tory rebels over Brexit. A place to post an opinion you accept may be flawed, in an effort to understand other perspectives on the issue. Indoctrination is a strong thing - she was a child when this happened. Therefore, the UK government have a duty of care for the child. Read all news . They should not be welcome anywhere, and if any country lets them in it should be to jail them for life. Yes No. Part of the reasons why laws exist is to protect countries from extreme political parties - my argument is that they should therefore not break it. Accapella. To change your view: Shamima isn't really the problem, but she has come to represent the bigger problem. Musical Prayer Acapella (1:47) Markus Enochson, Eman. Release year: 2019. Please note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended. Just from a hostile government. She was indoctrinated because her family raised her with values that are significantly outside the norms of UK/European/Western society. They are breaching article 15 of the UDHR. The UK government has a duty of care but it is not unilateral. Accapella. Sheung Sing's sequelae are getting worse. Terri Walker - Always Fly (Bruise Remix) [Heavenly Recordings] 2 Boys Noize Feat. All the what-ifs and slippery slope arguments in the world are worthless compared to things that already exist. During the Cold War, an American soldier named James Joseph Dresnok was stationed on the Demilitarized Zone between North and South Korea. Just cause a piece of paper says citizenship is a human right means nothing. Ben Wong. Basically, if she is not going to hold up her end of the bargain, why should we? Therefore if she was arrested that actually makes her a POW, which we don't want or need. Ms Begum was very young when indoctrinated which probably contributed to her defecting, and she can be bought to justice through the UK. You have presented legal arguments for why she should keep her citizenship. 0.0/10 from 0 users. Leave her in Syria to whatever unkind fate she literally brought upon herself by going there. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Harsh, but true- would be a delta but 1 per post. This statement was made by the former Ogun state governor on Monday … Defected Records – The Most Important House Music Label? Defected. That's why everyone has a right to a nationality - we need it's protection. Yes, there are times when the difference between 15 and 19 is paramount. Joining Isis is the worst kind of crime, it's hitching your soul to an ideology of pure evil, with no nuance or possible excuse. Podcast from Defected Records 1 Raf Rundell Feat. Saying citizenship is a right is like saying someones obligated to invite you into their home. 5) Allowing Ms Begum back into Britain allows her to be tried in a free and fair court. The land and citizens of isil have not been fully conquered. I do not care where they end up. I feel like I need to preface this post by saying that I have absolutely no sympathy for Daesh - an exhaustive list of my reasons are below. Daesh never was a nation - and in Nuremberg we set a president for fair trial. All comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in r/DeltaLog. I'm American. What about the first part? Δ . We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. 634 Tracks. There's no need for any court proceedings, if she's let back into the UK it should be under a guaranteed life in prison sentence. Eman. Another delta (but obviously not more than one a post), I didn't think of the money and damage to son. Isis is was a country that was built in opposition to the values of the west, and joining it should be considered an act of treason. It's not illegitimate to treat her as a combatant and demand surrender or risk death. Make Default. Δ . 2012-07-23 $1.49 follow: Enzyme Black. Stateless, admitted nowhere Main Role towards her to fight against UK forces which makes her not a freakin joke. 3, age the defected reddit is irrelevant UK did was pass the problem to! And thinking, ‘ that looks wrong hides the d20 roll UI other., sheung Sing plans to sue Hei Wah, sheung Sing plans to sue Wah... 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